Pendrell (PCOA) Follow-Up: Reading into a CEO’s Past and the Dangers of “Dark” Stocks
A member commented to the write-up I did yesterday on Pendrell. I think the comment and my response are worth making into a full follow-up “memo”.
So, here they are:
“Geoff,
This company definitely seems promising. I saw the blog post from Hidden Value that you retweeted and ended up buying a small starter position in the company after reading the 10k. That was before even seeing that you ended up writing a post on it.
I’m struggling to decide how to size the position right now, but really I have two open questions I’m working on.
- How big of a cash flow business can Pendrell reasonably acquire using their current cash position?
2. How will the experience of being a “private” shareholder in Pendrell differ from owning stock in a more public position that files with the SEC?
Some further development of those two points:
- I know you assumed that they’d purchase the company with 100% cash equity. That seems like a very conservative assumption. If they’re going to behave and operate as a private corporation, there is no reason we can’t view PCOA as basically a private equity investment without the 2% management fee.
In that situation, wouldn’t they be likely to use leverage in an LBO like purchase? They could use somewhere between 30-50% cash with the rest being debt. That could change your EBIT target from 15 million per year, to something like $30-40 million per year. Therefore, the unleveraged 10.4 P/E could be something like a leveraged P/E of 4-6.
While management hasn’t guided to the use of debt versus all-cash transactions, I don’t see why they would choose to use all cash. By using leverage, they can better take advantage of their deferred tax NOL asset.
Obviously, this is purely an upside discussion, but you’ve already discussed the downside. (minimal)
- Although the company won’t file financial reports with the SEC, do private companies still usually prepare financial statements but not issue them publicly? Perhaps only to shareholders? Or should I assume I’ll not receive any regular updates at all about the financial condition of the underlying company while I hold this stock?
Geoff, any insight you can provide on those points would be most appreciated. Thank you for bringing the stock to my attention through your tweet.”
First of all, this is a reminder to all the members reading this to follow me on Twitter (@GeoffGannon). You can sometimes – if you pay attention to what I re-tweet, tweet, etc. – get an idea of what sort of things I’m reading about and even sometimes which particular company I’m current analyzing. Many times, nothing will come of it. This time, a stock write-up came of it.
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