Posts By: Geoff Gannon

Geoff Gannon June 3, 2021

Jewett-Cameron (JCTCF): A Stock That Grew in Value Even When the Business Didn’t Grow in Size  

Over the last 10 years or so, Jewett-Cameron (JCTCF) has roughly quintupled its stock price while the company’s total revenue has remained basically the same.

There are some interesting signs here. But, I haven’t learned enough to say anything definitive about this company.

I can summarize what we know from the SEC filings though.

Jewett-Cameron is an illiquid microcap. The company files with the SEC. In fact, it also files with SEDAR (because it’s incorporated in Canada and used to trade on the Toronto Stock Exchange). Today, Jewett-Cameron is listed only on NASDAQ. And, although incorporated in Canada, it’s really an American company.

The business description for Jewett-Cameron describes the company as being involved in industrial wood products, products tied to pets and garden and lawn, and seed and seed processing. Older descriptions of the company also mentioned a discontinued industrial tool business (it was liquidated last year). I think these are somewhat misleading descriptions of the company. They give the impression this is more of a lumber business and more of a diversified business than it really is.

I don’t know a lot (yet) about the long-term history of this company. But, based on the dates given for when each business segment was created – it seems it started out as more of a lumber business and gradually moved further and further into what I think it is today: a pet, garden, and lawn business with the “pet” part (dog kennels, fencing to keep dogs enclosed, etc.) being the most important. No segment other than “pet, garden, and lawn” consistently contributes meaningful profits to the company. In fact, in recent years, this company would have earned about 10 cents per share more if it consisted only of the “pet, garden, and lawn” business.

So, over 100% of the EBIT you are seeing here is from “pet, garden, and lawn”. Also, the majority of sales in that segment (like 70%) are for metal products rather than wood products. I should mention the segment accounting here is a little different than you’re probably used to seeing. Jewett-Cameron separates out its corporate function and charges its subsidiaries for corporate services provided. It then shows a profit on the corporate line. As a result, all of the segments here look worse than they tend to when broken out by most public companies – because, most public companies are showing you segment data without charging each segment for corporate functions. The figures shown here probably better represent what each segment would look like if it was broken off from Jewett-Cameron and made a separate business. Really, the only meaningful business for an investor to consider is the “pet, garden, and lawn” business which did about $4 million in EBIT last year against an enterprise value of about $30 million here. So, the entire company is selling for like 7-8x what that one segment did in pre-tax income. Given that over 100% of EBIT comes from that segment and that the market cap and enterprise …

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Geoff Gannon March 21, 2021

Universal Insurance Holdings (UVE): A Cheap and Fast-Growing Florida Hurricane Exposed Insurer I’m Going to Pass On

This is a stock I talked about on a podcast with Andrew. It looked cheap based on the simple ratios you might use to decide if something’s a value stock. And the business of writing homeowner’s (and renter’s) insurance in Florida seemed like something that could be good enough (in some years) and simple enough for me to understand and possibly invest in.

However, what I found when looking into Universal is a lot of stuff I don’t really like. Having said that, the stock is cheap. It is very leveraged to good underwriting results. So, in a good year (especially a tame year in terms of Florida hurricanes) the stock could easily go up a lot. It is a value stock. It’s cheap. But, it’s unlikely to be something I’d buy.

Let’s start with how cheap it is. If you look at something like QuickFS.net you’ll see that UVE is trading at around book value. The P/E doesn’t look good. But, the “E” part of an insurance company like this is going to involve both investment results and underwriting results. Underwriting results at UVE are going to depend mostly on the loss ratio (the expense ratio shouldn’t vary a lot here) and the loss ratio is going to depend a lot on weather. UVE uses a lot of reinsurance. However, the way these reinsurance agreements are set up – UVE is very exposed to the frequency (not so much the magnitude) of hurricanes in Florida. As a result, I suspect that recent weather related losses for UVE are larger than you might expect. You’d expect them to be manageable because there haven’t been a lot of really bad hurricanes in a while. However, there actually have been a lot of events. You can read about the reinsurance deals in the company’s investor presentation. I’ll sum it up by saying that UVE stands to lose fairly similar amounts – much more similar amounts than I expected before reading about the reinsurance deals – from each event per year than you might think. So, you might be scared off by the risk of one really big hurricane and underestimate the impact of several medium sized hurricanes.

This brings me to the company’s “plan” and its guidance. This is the first thing I don’t like about UVE. The company does earnings calls. And it gives guidance. I don’t think it’s a good idea for a company like this to guide. UVE is guiding on the basis of weather performing “to plan”. So, it is basically plugging in something like 10% of each premium into weather related losses. But, some years the actual losses could be 30% of premiums instead of 10%. In another year, it could be almost nothing. On a recent call, an analyst asked about the fact that the company had performed below plan for many consecutive quarters in a row. That’s the problem with guiding around normal weather. It’s actually not as abnormal as it might sound to have …

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Geoff Gannon February 14, 2021

Silvercrest Asset Management (SAMG): A 4% Dividend Yield For an Asset Manager Focused on Super Wealthy Families and Institutions

Silvercrest Asset Management (SAMG) is an investment manager. It looks cheap if you expect it – as has been the case in the past – to do a good job of keeping its clients and keeping those clients keeping about as much money with them as before. However, most publicly traded asset managers are cheap stocks, because they have experienced – and investors probably expect them to continue to experience – redemptions. In some ways, Silvercrest looks a bit closer to Truxton (TRUX) – another stock I wrote-up – than it does to some of the asset managers that just run mutual funds for the general investing public. Silvercrest’s client base is a mix of ultra-wealthy – their top 50 clients average $290 million in assets each at Silvercrest – families (2/3rds of the business) and institutions (1/3rd of the business). These clients are put into a mix of homegrown investment options and outsourced investments. For all clients, the average is closer to about $30 million. However, as you’d expect – most of the assets under management are with their top 50 clients (who, again, each average close to $300 million in assets with Silvercrest).

Silvercrest charges mostly asset-based fees. These average a bit less than 0.6% of assets under management. Unlike Truxton, Silvercrest is not a private bank. It offers other services. But, these are a small part of the business, aren’t growing very fast, and aren’t something I’m going to discuss much here. So, Silvercrest might sit midway between the kind of publicly traded asset managers you’re more familiar with (say GAMCO) and a private bank / trust business like Truxton. I don’t think it’s entirely comparable to one or the other.

There’s a write-up over at Value Investors Club on this stock. It’ll be a little different from what I discuss here. So, I recommend reading that. But, there’s not going to be a ton of information in there that I don’t also cover. This is because both my write-up of Silvercrest and that Value Investors Club write-up look like they’re nearly 100% based on reading the company’s 10-K. The company does earnings calls. You should read the transcripts. It might give you a little bit better feel for the sales process and things like that. The company also puts out an annual report (on its website) that includes a shareholder letter not found in the 10-K (the rest of the annual report is just the 10-K).

As of the last 10-Q (September 30th, 2020) the company had $24 billion in asset under management. However, that is for the consolidated entity Silvercrest L.P. which is 35% owned by employees of the company and only 65% owned by public shareholders in the entity I’m writing about here.

So, as a stockholder, you really only have an interest in $16 billion of that AUM.

Silvercrest has a diagram to explain this. But, it’s worth going over here. The publicly traded company owns about 2/3rds of the …

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Geoff Gannon February 11, 2021

Investors Title Company (ITIC): A Strong, Consistently Profitable Regional Title Insurer Trading at a Premium to Book Value

This stock was brought to me by Andrew. He wanted to know more about the title insurance industry. ITIC is a publicly traded (it trades on NASDAQ) regional title insurer. There are four large, national title insurers that account for 80-90% of all title insurance market share in the U.S. However, in some states – the leading title insurer is a homegrown operation. These companies are known as “regional” title insurers. ITIC was started by the Fine family in the 1970s (it became operational midway through 1976). By the 1980s, it became the largest title insurer in North Carolina. It has since expanded into other states – mainly Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina. Premiums in North Carolina, Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina account for 75-80% of the company’s premiums. ITIC writes mainly (but not totally) directly in North Carolina and through “issuing agents” (lawyers, bankers, basically anyone originating a real estate purchase or transfer or refinance) in other states. Generally, there is no commission associated with title insurance premiums written directly and slightly under a 70% commission rate for insurance written indirectly.

ITIC is a “primary” insurer. It does own a reinsurance subsidiary. And it both assumes and cedes some insurance each year. However, this has never been a material part of its business. As far as I can tell – and I only read the most recent 10-K from 2019 and the oldest 10-K from the mid-1990s – reinsurance has been less than 1% of revenues. My guess is that the reinsurance business is not for regulatory reasons. It probably has to do with the company’s choice to not retain individual risks in excess of a certain amount. For example – and this is just a hypothetical illustration, it may be close to the truth but is not something the company says explicitly – if someone wants $900,000 of title insurance, the company may take the first $500,000 and retain that risk in the usual insurance subsidiary and then pass the other $400,000 on to the reinsurance subsidiary. As of the 1990s, we know that this was not a requirement that state regulators in North Carolina put on the company. It was a choice the company was making.

ITIC’s financial position is strong. You can see it has an A.M. Best rating of “A” (there are only two notches above this: A+ and A++). In a podcast I did recently with Andrew, I mentioned that investors may want to look for an “A minus” or better rating from A.M. Best to know if there is anything about the company’s financial position that might be a concern in terms of the strength of an insurance subsidiary. Keep in mind that an A.M. Best rating is really an indication of insurance subsidiary strength as an insurer (safety for policyholders, ability to reinsure others, etc.) and not a credit rating. It’s certainly not a rating of the safety of the common stock or its dividend.

Having said that, I wasn’t surprised when …

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Geoff Gannon February 7, 2021

Alico (ALCO): A Florida Orange Grower Selling Land, Paying Down Debt, and Focusing on its Core Business

Alico (ALCO) is a landowner in Florida. The company is – or is quickly becoming – basically just an owner of citrus groves that produce oranges for use in Tropicana orange juice. The majority of the land Alico owns is still ranch land. The company has about 100,000 acres in Florida. Of this about 55,000 acres are ranch land and 45,000 acres are orange groves. The book value consists almost entirely of the actual capitalized cost of the orange trees on the land. The land itself – with a few exceptions caused by recent purchases – is held at unrealistic values on the balance sheet. For example, the company has sold ranch land at more than $2,500 per acre that was carried on the books at less than $150 an acre. So, the situation here is similar to two other stocks I’ve written up in the past: Keweenaw Land Association (KEWL) and Maui Land & Pineapple (MLP).

There is one write-up of the stock over at Value Investors Club. You can go over to VIC and read that write-up. It gives background on the history of the company that Alico itself doesn’t really talk about in either its 10-Ks or its investor presentation. The company has recently tried to get its story out to investors. There is now an investor presentation. There have also been a couple quarters of earnings calls.

The investor presentation has a slide that includes the company’s estimate of the fair value of the land it owns versus the enterprise value. On this basis, the stock looks cheap. However, it doesn’t look incredibly cheap. And I’m somewhat unsure whether a value investor should look at the stock as just a matter of enterprise value versus likely market value of the land. But, I’ll start there, because other write-ups of the stock will almost certainly be focused around that investor presentation slide that lays out the company’s enterprise value versus the likely fair market value of the land.

ALICO owns 55,000 acres of ranch land. (For the purposes of this write-up, I’m using some out of date numbers not updated for land sales and cash receipts – however, they basically would just net out: less land, more cash / less debt). The company puts an estimate for fair value of that land at $2,000 to $3,000 an acre. Ranch land I’ve known of in other places goes for similar amounts to that. About $1,000 to $3,000 an acre. The company has sold plenty of ranch land recently. And much of it has been sold in the $2,000 to $3,000 range. So, that implies a pre-tax value of $110 million to $165 million for the ranch land. However, almost all of any land sales not put into a “like kind” asset to defer taxation will end up taxed at very, very high amounts because nearly 100% of the sale will be a capital gain. Also, some of this land seems to me to be encumbered with debt. Alico …

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Geoff Gannon November 19, 2020

Marcus (MCS): Per Share Value of the Hotel Assets

I’m revisiting Marcus (MCS) with an attempt to appraise the hotel side of the business. Andrew sent me some articles discussing property tax appraisal of Milwaukee hotels (including those owned by Marcus). I looked at some other property tax records. I looked at Penn State’s hotel value index. Andrew spoke with the CFO of Marcus. And I consulted a few other sources.

My best guess is that the pre-COVID fair value of Marcus’s hotel assets was around the $235 million to $400 million range. On a fully diluted basis (41 million shares) assuming that the convertible is fully converted – this is inaccurate, because it ignores the “capped call” Marcus entered into – that works out to between $6 and $10 a share from the hotel segment. Remember, Marcus has like $5 a share in debt. It has cash, tax refunds due, other assets it isn’t using etc. that might be worth around $2 a share. But, then this is a hotel and movie theater company. So, it’ll burn through some cash in the quarters ahead. Maybe it’s best to ignore the cash, tax refunds, excess land etc. and assume that Marcus will just need to use that stuff to fund cash burn through 2021. That leaves $6 to $10 in hotel value per share vs. debt of $5 a share. So, hotel value net of debt is $1 to $5 a share. Marcus stock is at $11 a share right now. So, the stock is pricing the theater chain at like $6 to $10 a share. In a normal year – like 2022, maybe (certainly not next year) – I wouldn’t be surprised if Marcus could do $1 a share in free cash flow from its theaters alone. So, that’d mean the stock is now priced at like 6-10x free cash flow from the theaters.

What’s MCS stock really worth? Probably more like twice that amount (14-20x free cash flow) if it was priced like a normal business.

How solid is this $6 to $10 a share (after the conversion adds to Marcus’s shares outstanding) in hotel segment valuation?

Not very. Hotels are pretty difficult to value in the sense that they bounce around a lot like stocks do. Cap rates are important. If yields on other assets are very low, hotels will rise in price. If debt is widely available, hotels will rise in price. And then these are cyclical assets. If you look at the year-by-year figures for hotel values on a per room basis – each year is priced a lot like the market is just extrapolating the present into the distant future. Hotels may have fallen like 30% or something in value during COVID. But, this isn’t really relevant on an asset like this. And I’m going to ignore 2020 values for hotels even though they are our most recent valuations. I’m not going to value hotels in 2020 for the same reason I wouldn’t value a stock portfolio using early 2009 prices. They clearly …

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Geoff Gannon November 13, 2020

Marcus (MCS): A Movie Theater and Hotel Stock Trading for Less than the Sum of Its Parts

Marcus (MCS) is not an overlooked stock. Despite having a market cap of around $300 million – the level usually defined as the cut-off between a “micro cap” and a “small cap” stock – well over $10 million worth of this company’s stock trades on some days. The stock is liquid. And most of that liquidity is probably highly speculative activity. This is typical for the industry. You can see similar amounts of high share turnover, high beta, etc. at other publicly traded movie theater companies like Reading (RDI) and Cinemark (CNK).

A major reason for that is COVID. I’m going to ignore COVID throughout this write-up. If you’re a long-term investor looking to buy a stock and hold it for the long-term, COVID may influence your appraisal of a company a bit in terms of cash burn over the next year or so. But, aside from that, it matters very little in predicting where a hotel or movie theater stock will trade within 3-5 years. Also, due to the value of the real estate Marcus owns, I don’t foresee meaningful bankruptcy risk here compared to other hotel and movie theater stocks. Most companies in the movie theater and hotel businesses own virtually none of their locations – Marcus owns the majority of the properties they operate in both segments. In fact, Marcus is remarkably overcapitalized compared to its peers in these industries.

And, despite not being overlooked, Marcus may actually be cheap. The company is made up of two businesses. One business is the fourth largest movie theater chain in the U.S. The other business is a collection of hotels. I’m most interested in the movie theater business. So, I’ll start by trying to get the value of the hotel division out of the way.

Marcus manages around 20 hotels. However, it only has ownership stakes in less than half of those. It owns 10% of one hotel. It owns 60% of another hotel. And then it owns 100% of a hotel where the property is held under a long-term lease (instead of outright ownership). To simplify, I’m going to ignore all the hotels Marcus only manages, the hotels where there is a different majority owner, the hotels where there is a different minority owner, and the hotel where the property is held under a long-term lease. In reality, some of these hotels have value. But, we’ll ignore all that.

This simplifies the hotel division’s assets down to 6 fully owned hotels. Those 6 hotels are: the Hilton Milwaukee Center (729 rooms), Grand Geneva Resort & Spa (355 hotels), Pfister (307), Lincoln Marriott Cornhusker (297), Hilton Madison Monona Terrace (240 rooms), and Saint Kate (219 rooms).

This adds up to a total of 2,147 rooms. Generally, these owned hotels are somewhat upscale and somewhat urban (though they are in relatively less densely populated Midwestern states like Wisconsin). I don’t know enough about hotels to be able to appraise these hotels accurately. When I say they are upscale – they …

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Geoff Gannon October 23, 2020

Hingham (HIFS): Good Yield Curve Now – But, Always Be Thinking About the Risk of the Bad Yield Curve Years to Come

I’m writing again about Hingham (HIFS), because someone asked me this question:

 

I was wondering how long it would take Geoff to talk about Hingham savings, seems to tick all his boxes – very low cost of funding on the operations side and a capital conscious manager with Buffett fetish. What more could you want ?

 

It does have a very low operating cost. But, it doesn’t have a very low interest cost. It does now that rates have been cut to nothing. But, it probably got down to about a 2% net interest margin just before the end of the housing bubble about 13-14 years ago. It had a very rough 2006-2007.

 

So, the bank is set up very differently than most banks I would be interested in that I’d consider very safe. Hingham is running some serious risks by being 100% real estate focused. This is because you end up with almost no “self-funding” of your lending, because your borrowers are going to be small to mid-sized (and maybe a couple big sized) relationships where they just want a lot of money all the time to invest in more and more real estate. They aren’t going to deposit a lot of money with you. Compare this to something like the C&I side of Frost where it is going to be about 100% funded by an equal amount of deposits and borrowing coming from your customers on the commercial and industrial side. So, something like Hingham is going to need to use CDs and FHLB borrowing to operate. It is going to be very, very sensitive to cost of liabilities on the very short-term. What it is basically doing is borrowing short wholesale and then lending long against real estate. That’s very good right now. It’s just gotten to be a lot better business, because the cost of its liabilities has dropped to close to 0% with Fed Fund Rate cuts in the last year. But, that is going to be a temporary situation.

 

So, what more would I want to know?

 

Does the bank understand how it is running a unique business model that has unique risks in terms of liquidity. Like, do they understand that they can have almost no credit losses and the lowest operating expenses in the banking industry and STILL face some risks? If they said to me: “Oh. We don’t really worry about that liquidity stuff. There’s always been funds available to borrow. Etc.” Then, I might worry.

 

I kind of follow the Buffett approach that Alice Schroeder has talked about where I START with asking “what’s the catastrophic risk here?” and then go from there. So, if I think there’s a meaningful risk of catastrophe – then, I might pass on an idea right away that looks like it might have good risk/return odds in most environments, but could go broke in unusual circumstances.

 

What are the unusual circumstances that are a risk here?

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Geoff Gannon October 17, 2020

Hingham Institution for Savings (HIFS): A Cheap, Fast Growing Boston-Based Mortgage Bank with a P/E of 9 and a Growth Rate of 10%

This is the one “higher quality, more expensive” bank I mentioned in the podcast Andrew and I did where we talked about like eight or so different U.S. banks. Hingham’s price-to-book (1.7x) is very high compared to most U.S. banks. It is, however, quite cheap when compared to U.S. stocks generally. This is typical for bank stocks in the U.S. They all look very cheap when compared to non-bank stocks. There are many different ways to calculate price multiples: P/B, P/E, dividend yield, etc. The easiest way to calculate a high quality, stable, growing bank’s cheapness or pricey-ness is simply to take the most recent quarterly EPS and multiple it by 4. You then divide the stock price into EPS that is 4 times the most recent quarterly result. The reason for this is that bank’s aren’t very seasonal. But, sometimes events – like COVID – and normal growth (HIFS is a fast grower) can cause the full past twelve month earnings figure to be out of date So, how cheap is HIFS?

“Core” earnings per share in the most recent quarter – I’ll discuss what “core” means at Hingham later, but for now trust me this is the right number to use – was $5.68. Multiply this by 4. We get $22.72 a share. That’s our 12-month look ahead “core” earnings. The stock now trades at $206 a share. So, $206 divided by $22.72 equals 9. Hingham is trading at a “forward” P/E of 9. The “PEG” ratio (price-to-earnings / growth) here may be around 1 or lower. Hingham compounded book value per share by 15% a year over the last 5 years. Growth rates in the 10-15% range have been common since this bank’s management changed about 30 years ago. A lot of balance sheet items – like total assets, loans, and deposits – all grew about 10%+ over the last 12 months. So, a growth rate of about 10% and a P/E of about 9 seems likely here. One thing to point out is the high return on equity. Core return on equity is running at about 18% here. If ROE is about 15-18% while growth in loans and deposits and so on is in the 10-12% range, then the bank will eventually need to pay out one-third of its earnings as dividends and buybacks. Historically, it has not done this. It has found ways to grow much faster than the area (Boston) in which it operates and much faster than the balance sheets of its existing clients. Usually, that kind of thing can’t be kept up forever. Once that kind of growth can’t be kept up, the bank either becomes overcapitalized or it pays out a lot more in dividends and in buybacks. This brings up the other way we can look at a bank like Hingham. We can think in terms of dividend yield and growth. So, let’s say the dividend yield is 1%. The question then becomes how much do we think that dividend …

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Geoff Gannon September 27, 2020

Luby’s (LUB): Luby’s is Liquidating – What’s the CAGR Math Behind Possible Payouts and Timing?

This is a simple situation. But, you’ll want some background info before reading my take on it.

Information you might find useful about this one can be found at:

Clark Street Value

Hidden Value

Seeking Alpha

And my comments in this podcast (starts at 31 minutes)

The stock is Luby’s (LUB). It is liquidating. The company estimates it could make liquidating distributions of between $3 to $4 a share. It doesn’t set a timetable for the distributions. However, elsewhere in the proxy statement a period of 1-2 years is the estimate given for when they will get an order for the Delaware court that would provide them the sort of safe harbor they want to make distributions. As soon as they got that order, they might make the first of the distributions. I suspect they will make no distributions before getting the order. So, the company is saying it expects to pay out $3 to $4 per share no sooner than 1-2 years from now. The stock is at $2.58 a share.

Let’s just do the math with those numbers: $2.58 price today, $3 distribution, or $4 distribution, 1 year, or 2 years from now. I don’t necessarily believe some of these numbers. But, let’s put that aside for now, because these are the actual sort of company estimates we see in the proxy statement instead of guesses made by me or others.

Buying at $2.58 and getting paid $3 in 2 years is an 8% annual return.

Buying at $2.58 and getting paid $3 in 1 year is a 16% annual return.

Buying at $2.58 and getting paid $4 in 2 years is a 25% annual return.

Buying at $2.58 and getting paid $4 in 1 year is a 55% annual return.

So, if you really expect to be distributed $3 to $4 per share within 1-2 years, you should buy the stock. The expected return range is 8-55%. If we take the middle of both price and timeline – that is, $3.50 in 18 months – that’s a 23% annual return. Which is really good. And if you assume the downside here really is something like earning 8% a year for the next 2 years – there’s no reason to assume you can do better than that in any index, any safe form of bond, etc. Stock pickers might be able to do better than 8% a year over the next 2 years. Your opportunity cost could be a lot higher than 8%. But, the certainty might be higher here.

Also, I have not presented the real upside here. The $3 to $4 estimate presented by the company in its proxy statement is not the actual estimate of the liquidation distributions provided by the company’s financial advisors. Like most companies considering “strategic alternatives”, Luby’s formed a special committee which then hired a financial advisor. The financial advisor – Duff & Phelps – came up with an estimated range for the liquidating distributions that would be paid to shareholders.…

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